Wednesday, October 7, 2009 - 4:35 PM

This may have been the best month for Brazil since about June 1494. That's when the Treaty of Tordesillas was signed granting Portugal everything in the new world east of an imaginary line that was declared to exist 370 leagues west of the Cape Verde islands. This ensured that what was to become Brazil would be Portuguese and thus develop a culture and identity very different from the rest of Spanish Latin America. This guaranteed the world would have samba, churrasco, "The Girl from Ipanema," and through some incredibly fortuitous if twisted chain of events, Gisele Bundchen.
While it took Brazil sometime to live up to the backhanded maxim that it was "the country of tomorrow and always would be," there is little doubt that tomorrow has arrived for the country even if much work remains to be done to overcome its serious social challenges and tap its extraordinary economic potential.
The evidence that something new and important was happening in Brazil began to build years ago, when then President Cardoso engineered a shift to economic orthodoxy that stabilized a country racked by cycles of boom and bust and mind-blowing inflation. It has gained momentum however, throughout the extraordinary term of the country's current President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
Some of that momentum is due to Lula's commitment to preserving the economic foundations laid by Cardoso, a courageous political move for a lifelong labor leader from the opposition Workers Party. Some of it is due to luck, a changing global energy paradigm that helped make Brazil's 30 years of investment in biofuels start to pay off in important new ways, massive discoveries of oil off Brazil's coast and growing demand from Asia that has enabled Brazil to become a world agricultural export leader and assume the role of "breadbasket of Asia." But much of it is due to great skill on the part of Brazil's leaders in seizing a moment that many of their predecessors likely would have fumbled.
Of those leaders, much of the credit goes to President Lula who has become a bit of a rock star on the international scene, harnessing energy, drive, charisma, uncanny intuition, and common sense so effectively that his lack of formal education has hardly been an impediment. Some goes to other members of his team, such as his chief of staff Dilma Rousseff, a former energy minister who has become a very tough chief of staff and a possible successor to Lula. But I believe a large amount of it ought to go to Celso Amorim, who has masterminded a transformation of Brazil's role in the world that is almost unprecedented in modern history. He has been Lula's foreign minister since 2003 (he also served in the same role in the 1990s) but I think there is a fair case to be made that he is currently the world's most successful foreign minister.
It is impossible to pinpoint just one turning point in Amorim's efforts to transform Brazil from a lumbering regional power of dubious international clout into one of the most important players on the world stage, acknowledged by global consensus to play an unprecedented leading role. It may have come when he played a central role helping to engineer a pushback by emerging countries against a business-as-usual power play by the U.S. and Europe during the Cancun trade talks in 2003. It might have been the canny way the Brazilians have used issues such as their biofuels leadership to forge new dialogues and influence either with the United States or with other emerging powers. It certainly involved his embrace of the idea of transforming the BRICs from acronym to important geopolitical collaboration, working with his counterparts in Russia, India and China to institutionalize the dialogue between the countries and to coordinate their messages. (Arguably the BRIC helped most by this alliance is Brazil. Russia, China and India all earn places at the table due to military capabilities, population size, economic clout or resources. Brazil has all these things...but less than the others.) It also involved countless other things from the Brazil's deepened and tightened ties with countries like China, it's promotion of both investment flows and a reputation for being comparatively secure in the face of global economic reversals, the comfort level America's new President has with his Brazilian counterpart -- even extending to encouraging them to play a role as a conduit to, for example, the Iranians. Agree or not with their every move in places like Honduras or in the OAS on Cuba, Brazil has also continued to play an important regional role even as it is clear its focus has shifted to the global stage.
Nothing illustrates how far Brazil has come or how effective the Lula-Amorim team has been than the events of the past few weeks. First, the countries of the world cashier the G8 and embrace the G20, guaranteeing Brazil a permanent place at the most important table in the world. Next, Brazil becomes the first country in South America to be awarded the right to host the Olympics. Yesterday's FT carried news that "Asia and Brazil lead rise in consumer confidence", a reflection on the reputation that the government has effectively sold (with the bulk of the credit going to a resurgent Brazilian private sector.) And this week's stories out of the IMF-World Bank meeting in Istanbul show a further institutionalization of Brazil's new role with agreement to change the structure of the International Monetary Fund. According to today's Washington Post: "The nations also preliminarily agreed to reshape the fund's voting structure, promising a blueprint for giving more clout to emerging giants like Brazil and China by January 2011."
Not a bad few days work. And while it's Brazil's Finance Ministry you'll find at IMF-World Bank Meetings, the undisputed architect of this remarkable transformation of Brazil's role in Amorim.
Much work remains to be done, of course. Part of it has to do with the new role that has been shaped. Brazil wants a permanent place on the U.N. Security Council and more of a leadership role in other international institutions. It may well earn these, but it will have to maintain its growth and stability to get there. Further, Brazil seems inclined to minimize regional threats such as those posed by Venezuela (Brazilians tend to look down their nose at their neighbors to the north almost as much as they do toward their Argentine friends to the south ... and thus they under-estimate the ability of men like Hugo Chavez to do too much damage.) And they have an election coming up that may change the cast of players and of course, that can alter the current trajectory in any number of ways -- good and bad.
But it is hard to think of another foreign minister who has so effectively orchestrated such a meaningful transformation of his country's international role. And that's why if I were asked today to cast a ballot, my vote for world's best foreign minister would likely go to Santos' native son, Celso Amorim.
One note on yesterday's post: I received a note late yesterday from a spokesperson for the British Embassy taking issue with my assertion that the British Ambassador had joked that he wasn't getting much attention from the Obama administration. The thrust of their point was that "the Embassy denies categorically that the Ambassador made these remarks, even in jest, and that in our view the relationship between the UK and USA remains as close as ever -- whatever the noises off by febrile commentators in the media." While I stand by my story, their email to me on this was so civil and well-argued that I felt it only fair to pass on their views. I would take the "febrile commentators" point personally, but I had a flu shot only yesterday so they can't possibly mean me.
AFP PHOTO/JUAN MABROMATA
Is "President Luis Ignacio 'Lula' da Silva" a joke about the faux pas the Whitehouse commited before the meeting between Obama and Lula after Obama's election?
The name of the president is actually "Luís Inácio Lula da Silva", without quotes around "Lula" and without "g" in "Inácio" :)
No, it's not a joke. Just a tribute to my weak copyediting skills. Sometimes these posts are written pretty quickly and typos slip through. We'll fix it!
The joke is not about Lula's name, but on Amorim be called "the world’s best foreign minister". This guy is a international joke. And worse, a bad one.
Rio 2016 first Olympics in South America
Mexico City hosted the Olympic Games in 1968. Mexico is still part of Latin America. Therefore, to say that "Next, Brazil becomes the first country in Latin America to be awarded the right to host the Olympics." is not 100% correct. In fact, Brazil is the first in South America.
In addition, I'm not quite familiar with the meaning of CASHIER in the following sentence: "First, the countries of the world cashier the G8 and embrace the G20, guaranteeing Brazil a permanent place at the most important table in the world." Could you please clarify? Thank you.
Kind regards,
Ninguém
Amorim is being groomed to be Lula's successor in 2010. With Meirelles as his running mate.
Read around with this in mind and you'll see the writing on the wall.
Did Amorin got his man (Luis Felipe Seixas) to WTO ? NO
Did he got his man (Joao Sayad) to IDB ? NO
Did he got a seat at the security council ? NO
Did he improved relationships with Arab dictatorships ? YES
Did he improved relationships with the only middle-east democratic country ? NO
Did he vote to condemn Sudanese government for the Dafur massacres ? NO
Did he condemned the narc-terrorists from FARC ? NO
Did he polish Hugo Chaves boots every other week ? YES
Sayad was never Amorim's candidate for IDB. The Finance ministery launched his candidacy against Amorim's will. He was defeated, indeed, at the WTO. It was evident that U.S. and E.U. would love to have a brazilian as secretary-general to lead the Doha round.
What does it mean, Arab dictatorship? Are you talking about Saudi Arabia's fundamentalist regime? Why couldn't Brazil have a good relationship with governments in that region, just as U.S does, for pragmatic reasons?
What is the only middle-east democratic country, Israel that treats differently its arab-origin citizen? Well, Amorim helped to sign the only Mercosur's free trade agreement with a country outside South America, with... Israel.
"Polish Chavez boots"? Too much hate in your heart, Alt. Take it easy and you would improve your understanding about foreign policy...
No brazilians are not ashamed by Amorim. You may criticize huim a lot, but surely he is not a loser, as you could notice talking with any important world leader or diplomat.
By his track record in foreign relations, he could be named as "anti-yankee, fascists dictators lover" as, say, Nicolas Sarkozy or Michelle Bachellet, for example. By the way, he had a close relatioship with Condoleeza Rice, and talks by phone with Hilary Clinton frequently.
In Brazil still exists a group (kindly called by "minority that sees itself as most") that would like to sell the country for those who pay less, if the buyer ensures a trip for the seller and it's family for Europe.
These people are always criticizing policies of inclusion of the poor and greater equality.
Brazil did NOT polished anyone boots. We just want to help our latin neighbors (and be helped), increasing our strength against known and historical abuses in our countries by foreigners.
Thanks
Nevermind about this loosers, in Brazil we often joke about this "Cur Syndrome" (search for Nelson Rodrigues for further information): that means many brazilians think about Brazil and themselves as a second class contry, they cant see our development and they cant accept a former metalworker is our best president ever!
Most of this critics came from the sad brazilian elite that wants badly to keep the old status cuo (that means buying justice, politicians and do whatever they want), and their brainwashed playboy sons, who has time to write comments on the internet and feel shame for Lula being a man "from the people". They like being superior and step on the poor heads with dad's money, powerful cars and empty minds...
Anyway, I always thought about Amorim as our best minister! He has always the right word for any situation! Still I think we are loosing time to create a green leadership around the globe. This is the future and we have all the tools...
It would probably be a bad thing if Brazil entered the permanent members of the Security Council the way things are now. The five of them can barely agree on anything meaningful without one or two of the others vetoing it (I'm looking at YOU China, Russia, United States). Suggestions from the West about how to reform the Security Council seem to always meet accusations that they're trying to take power away from the General Assembly. Lastly, Brazil still doesn't have the clout to get a seat. Admittedly neither does France, but that's more of a matter of figuring out how to change the membership. To all Brazilians, be patient! If you've waited this long for your time you can wait another ten years for the perfect chance.
Sir, we dont give a shit about Security Council. Only Lula have this ... unhealthy obsession, sick. Its is a curse!
The UN is reunion of dictators. USA is the last one demcracy in their.
The Honduran people are feeling the weight of the dictators of the UN.
The "Girl" of Ipanema and The Guy of Itamaraty
With all due respect, Mr. Rothkopf, be better informed. All the Honduras episode only shows the weakness of brazilian foreign relations, driven by bolivarian ideas. And Mr. Lula is allways shaking hands with dictators. This is not foreign relations for a country looking for international leadership.
And all this leftist talk about the "old elite", give me a break. Lula is the new face of this old elite. Just watch the development indicators of north-northeast Brazil. People there keeps on poverty, in despite of this political bullshit.
Get more information about Brazil, Mr. Rothkopf. And I almost forgot: the "girl of Ipanema" is now a granny.
How can you be so blind? Never before the northeast people earned money to keep their children in school. Maybe Lula is not teaching to te parents how to get te fish, but the childreen will soon change this history. Honduras episode only shows the growing importance of Brazil in the international stage!
Larga mão de ser vira-lata seu babaca, porque não vai mora na Europa e nunca mais volta? O Brasil não precisa de gente pessimista como você, que põe pra baixo o melhor projeto de país que o Brasil já teve. Você acha que o Alckmin teria feito melhor? Fala sério! O mais engraçado é que antes da eleição todos diziam "O Lula pode até fazer um bom trabalho aqui dentro, mas vai envergonhar o país lá fora! Ele não tem diploma e não fala inglês." E essa era a desculpa p/ votar em tipinhos como o Serra. Agora que ele botou todos os líderes mundiais no chinelo e é admirado mundialmente, recebendo elogios diários da imprensa global, palhaços como você vem criticar o trabalho interno. Você acha que é fácil, você acha que faria melhor???? Vai trabalhar, fazer alguma coisa útil, sua opinião mostra que você é peso morto p/ o Brasil, seria bem mais útil sugando emprego dos gringos.
"Bolivarian ideas" would not be a very precise term to define the pragmatic diplomacy of mr. Amorim. In general, informed people sees Brazil as a counterweight to Chávez in South America. Diplomats are always shaking hands with whoever has some importance for their countries, geopolitically speaking.
Another man blinking his obviously brillant career as a minister of foreign affairs is Ahmet Davutoglu in Turkey. He is out of Turkish Parlament and this is very important point because it shows that he was choosed due to his deep knowladge as an academician. We will se wheater he can turn this theorical skills into the praxis.
He has awared as an exception of Turkish ex-ministers, that modernity based on Eurocentrism has lost its position seen permanent in history and features of globalism has begun to bring accumulation of humanity in this scene inevitably, previously Asians'. It looks a revolation if we consider the history of Turkish diplomacy which had had a absolute conviction for the West. So the current policies of Turkey like Armenian and Kurdish expansions or abolishing the visa prosedure with Syria seem the works of this new idea sitted on the table of Minister of Forign Affairs Or Turkey.
Last May Lula da Silva visited to Tukey and had some conferances in which he recommended to Tukey the escape ways from crisis. And he wanted to company with Turkey. Before Brazil has overwhelmed its crisis, for decades the economic and social indicators of these two countries had engrossingly been the same on the graphics. Even some Turkish specialists had waggishly said that we must had looked at Brazil for a good predictions to make money in Turkeys' markets. Now Brazil has become a permanent position in the world policy, and Turkey has begun to proceed to attact in global affairs. And Brazils' President visited to Turkey at such a time.
Was it coincidence? I don't think so.
(Fernando Henrique) Cardoso , the worst president ever
"The evidence that something new and important was happening in Brazil began to build years ago, when then President Cardoso engineered a shift to economic orthodoxy that stabilized a country racked by cycles of boom and bust and mind-blowing inflation."
It´s not right, the changes starts in with Itamar Franco, the president BEFORE Cardoso.
Cardoso sell important government companies (phone companies, energy companies, mining... ) and try to sell out Petrobras (everybody knows Petrobras - one of the largest oil companis).
Sell for a ridiculous value, something like 1% of the original price.
Cardoso left a U$ 165.000.000.000,00 OF FMI debits, Lula have PAY it, and now Brazil loans money to FMI.
Cardoso have bankruptcy Brazil 3 times in your government.
and a list of scandal: here there is a little sample (portuguese only):
http://www.consciencia.net/corrupcao/documentos/fhc-45escandalos.html
Your president was right, Lula is "the Guy"
The worst foreign minister of the world
"Did Amorin got his man (Luis Felipe Seixas) to WTO ? NO
Did he got his man (Joao Sayad) to IDB ? NO
Did he got a seat at the security council ? NO
Did he improved relationships with Arab dictatorships ? YES
Did he improved relationships with the only middle-east democratic country ? NO
Did he vote to condemn Sudanese government for the Dafur massacres ? NO
Did he condemned the narc-terrorists from FARC ? NO
Did he polish Hugo Chaves boots every other week ? YES"
you forgot about the relationship and friendship with the anti-semite leader and pro-genocide Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Amorim is a shame for brazilians.. He is a fanatic, anti-yankee, fascists dictators lover and thanks of god, a loser, who always lose in every brazil's important names.
Sayad was never Amorim's candidate for IDB. The Finance ministery launched his candidacy against Amorim's will. He was defeated, indeed, at the WTO. It was evident that U.S. and E.U. would love to have a brazilian as secretary-general to lead the Doha round.
What does it mean, Arab dictatorship? Are you talking about Saudi Arabia's fundamentalist regime? Why couldn't Brazil have a good relationship with governments in that region, just as U.S does, for pragmatic reasons?
What is the only middle-east democratic country, Israel that treats differently its arab-origin citizen? Well, Amorim helped to sign the only Mercosur's free trade agreement with a country outside South America, with... Israel.
"Polish Chavez boots"? Too much hate in your heart, Alt. Take it easy and you would improve your understanding about foreign policy...
No brazilians are not ashamed by Amorim. You may criticize huim a lot, but surely he is not a loser, as you could notice talking with any important world leader or diplomat.
By his track record in foreign relations, he could be named as "anti-yankee, fascists dictators lover" as, say, Nicolas Sarkozy or Michelle Bachellet, for example. By the way, he had a close relatioship with Condoleeza Rice, and talks by phone with Hilary Clinton frequently.
LULA IS THE CHIEF OF ALL MOBS IN BRAZIL, LIKE FÔRO DE SÃO PAULO, COMANDO VERMELHO, PCC, AND PARTNER OF FARCS.
"This may have been the best month for Brazil since about June 1494." You don't know Brazil. Take your eyes off of our natural resources, stop playing politics with this. We are not Iraq!
From all argument put against Lula the one I like most is low/less/not educated man. I would remember that other governments have tried to stop inflation before, eatch one with its alliances, and brasilian society clainbed slowlly from USA sponsored state coup military presidents, throught media oligarchy addicted desastrous playboy pupet, to the narcisit Fernando Henrique, ex-gauche pictured highly educated intelectual 90`s telecon son. Each one proposed its solution limited on the objectives of the sponsors desires.
Oh God, the "petralhas" arrived here...
Well, what about this bunch of crap they say here?
- You are here commenting because the actions of the government of Mr. Fernando Henrique allowed us to have access to telecommunications.
- Do you have a computer because the actions of the government of Mr. Fernando Henrique allowed the stabilization of the economy.
If all goes well and I think that happens in another year we will be free of these people that the only thing they do is steal our money and have few results.
Lula spent so much and so badly, that never close their accounts. They include the repeated delays in the restoration of income tax payers.
He (Amorim) really DESERVES IT
Sir, this recognition is long overdue. He's a brilliant diplomat that has brought respect and dignity to our Foreign Affairs. Those flocking here to trash your well researched article; are nothing but a bunch of parasites connected to the CORRUPT ancien régime of former president CARDOSO...that by the way should be behind bars by now for robbery and high treason. They may well be just ONE person.. HE himself using those silly nicks.Those retrograde Feudals can't stand seeing a SON OF THE PEOPLE leading the country so well. Being the OLIGARCHS that they are, they will NEVER accept the Social and Economic changes that's been implemented by the present administration. They're a vocal minority +/- 8% of the population, mostly hail from the state of SAO PAULO, invariably light skinned descendents of poor europeans immigrants who came here to replace the african slaves after the abolition in the late 19th century. They see themselves as ''Europeans aristocrats'', they hate our beloved President LULA for his humble origins, they're racists, they don't like to be part of Latin America...they're just plain silly. Sir, don't bother with their unfair criticism; those people are discredited and despised here in Brazil...they are our equivalent of the cubans exiles in South Florida...GUSANOS...insects that transformed our Great Nation into the biggest Banana Republic on earth...SHAME ON THEM!
You dont know anything about Brazil. So sorry..
Im sorry but Ill be very quick. That issue is completely desgusting to us. You really dont know about youre saying about. You still must learn a lot about brasilian affairs and our internal problems. Amorim has been the worst diplomat ever since Rio Branco was born. Lula is a stupid and corrupt. By the way if you like Amorim and Lula i think you should be a Chavez fan? Learn more about Lula and Brazil and i guess you can stop to write bullshits...
Mr. David J. Rothkopf,
Please tell me.
They [PT] asked you to write these things about Mr. Amorim?
Everyone knows that he will be a candidate in 2010 elections.
And as he is a stranger to the people, need to advertise.
Because of this, suddenly he is using the media like never before a chanceller did in the history of Brazil.
Brazilian diplomacy has always been a source of pride for us.
And this man, Mr. Amorim, is messing this beautiful history.
He and his partners are a bad joke.
He is arrogant and thinks all the people is ignorant.
It's obvious that the the 'operation tegucigalpa' was orchestred by sr. Chaves. And the brazilian diplomacy will pay the bill.
In time: samba is african and don't have nothing with portuguese colonial heritage.
churrasco is a spanish heritage of the south colonization.
The Girl from Ipanema is only one between millions of good brazilian songs.
And Gisele Bundchen is, of course, fruit of the german colonization of the south...
Amorim was behind a great part of Brazilian diplomacy's beautiful story. Such as the Aids and drugs deal in Doha. He was the brazilian representant at WTO. He is sometimes arrogant because of the ignorance of some people. May people in Brazil are proud of him.
Samba comes of the fusion of portuguese and african heritage.
It is not so obvious that Chavez orchestrate much more than his own propaganda about the "operation tegucigalpa". He was the bigger loser in that case whitch showed the brazilian predominance and leadership in regional affairs. enezuelans don't have know how for such a operation (cubans do, by the way). Brazilian diplomy have been behaving very well, considering the circumstances.
I feel compelled to add a thing or two...
This has certainly produced a lively discussion. That's a good thing. A couple comments: as for the light-hearted list of things Brazilian in the first paragraph, it was just that, a light-hearted list. A list of thing identified with Brazil rather than things which best capture of the essence of Brazil. (This is after all for an international audience.)
I also want to make clear that there's plenty that Amorim and Lula support that I do not. There have been plenty of problems associated with their foreign policies and scandals and other missteps associated with their domestic efforts that are insupportable.
I was simply making the case that the one important way to measure the effectiveness of a foreign minister is whether or not he or she advances the interests of his government worldwide. Another is whether or not his or her actions help elevate the stature or alter the role of that government in the community of nations. By both metrics, Amorim has been successful. And by the latter metric he has arguably more successful than any of his counterparts worldwide.
As for my not knowing anything about Brazil, I respond two ways: First, I have been actively involved in working with Brazil and Brazilians for many years and have tried to learn as much as I could (despite being from New Jersey and clearly limited by my upbringing). Second, who can truly know Brazil?
talking about feeling compelled
Your light-hearted list was very well done. If it weren't for the Tordesillas treaty, maybe churrasco, Gisele and other brazilian patimonies would not be brazilian.
Your commentary box also shows clearly the low level of some Amorim's critics' arguments. Personal atacks, partisanship, blind hate... He has a lot of defects but there's no doubt he is one of the best diplomats Brazil has had in its history.
If Adolf Hitler was a petralha soul, he would not have committed suicide, he would have told the Russians, "Wow, I'm glad you came, imagine if I had won the war?"
Capisce?
But, Petralhas do not have a soul. No Honor, no dignity, only stupidity.
LULA & AMORIM changed Brazil for the better.
BRAVO! Well said Dave. Brazil is a country of continental dimensions and has a multiethnic population to match...it's not an easy place to understand...but i'm pretty sure that you know and understand it better than these airheads followers of the CORRUPT former president CARDOSO. Don't waste your time with these asinines...tell them to follow the Venezuelans and the anticastrists GUSANOS; and go to their natural habitat Miami... and invest their ill-gotten fortunes there. It's ironic that they accuse you of knowing nothing about Brazil when they themselves live SHAMELESSLY in their Monte Carlo like enclaves(always next to one of thousands FAVELAS/shantytowns that encircle the city of SAO PAULO)and seldom venture beyond their heavily guarded gated communities...except when they fly on their private jets to MIAMI...of course. I'm ashamed to call these people my countrymen. They raped and robbed our nation for over 500 years...and they're not satisfied yet. They'll not hesitate to undo every achievement of the LULA'S administration to suit their financial gains. They hate the president and the masses that elected him twice. 99.9% of them are racists and separatists from SAO PAULO state, who hate the President for his social policies, as well as for his northeastern background and his humble origins. I have this message for our American friends: do not believe and give credit to these bandits...they're drug barons; they're money launderers; they're tax evaders,therefore: you should arrest them the moment they touch the American soil. Patrick FITZGERALD would be the right man to take care of these crooks.
Mr. Rothkopf, very precise and honest your post.
Unfortunately you must be surprised about several prejudiced postings by Brazilian neocons (see their words and style).
They do not accept the legitimacy of president Lula and his 85% of approval according to the opinion of Brazilians.
They are intelectually dishonest and always distort the data and facts to support their speech.
Maybe you could help them to get a green card to move on to USA, because they think the only way to deal with USA and Europe is through the Washington Consensus.
In fact they miss President Cardoso's time, when Mr.Lafer, Amorim's predecessor, ashamedly took his shoes off 3 times crossing the USA customs.
Kind regards from Brazil.
Q: Who distorts the words of the Constitution of Honduras?
A: Lula and Amorim. They lie for everyone.
The whole world has become stupid and ignorant.
The American press died, the Brazilian press died.
I do not understand: Obama studied at Harvard, but he can not read the Honduran Constitution with the eyes of truth.
Why?, just simples words ...
the lier is you. How a president who name is full of dirt and a lot of corruption's issues has 85% of approval???
And his foreign minister is a ideologic commie and friend of ethnic cleaners, narco-terrorists, jihadists, anti-semites and other craps who are enemies of the democracy.
Today it is clear that the goal of the socialists was just coming to power, done!, now forget socialism!, now they want blood and more power.
Dear David Rothkopf
I'm a simple person.
What hell the whole world wants from Obama? Obama knows?
Oil is not a problem. Latin America and USA have a lot.
Third: Who can truly know brazil? Dont know. but ive got a truly hint. the brazilians. it sounds me very nasty when somebody living abroad which havent enough inteligility to do it. This country is getting better and stronger in spite of Lula da Silva. Nowadays Lula is a mere lame duck spending time ashaming us and spreading his ignorance all over the world.
I've lived in Brasil all my life and completely agree with the comments that say that our country is better in spite of Mr. Lula da Silva and his corrupt cohort.
Mr. da Silva's government has as its base the very worst of Brazilian politics, the PMDB party, the most corrupt gang of politicians to ever inhabit our planet, and to whom, in name of governability, Mr. da Silva has sold his soul. With the support of PMDB, Mr. Da Silva has ballooned the Brazilian internal debt to over 1.3 trillion dollars, has failed to implement ANY of the reforms the country badly needed, such as tributary and social security, and has kept heath care, education, security, public transport and just about everything else precisely as they were with his predecessor, which is in very bad shape to say the least.
Mr. Da Silva only merit was to lie to us before the election about his economic intentions, when he said that, among other things, would default payments to IMF and not pay a single cent to the "imperialist dogs" such as the US and UK, and instead followed precisely the guidelines established by his predecessor, Mr. Cardoso, which ironically, had at his base the same PMDB party (talk about change!). That lie, first among many, was responsible for the relative improvement of our nations economy. Relative, I say, with emphasis. Unemployment is still at 10%, in spite of heavy make-up of numbers by official agencies, and GDP per capita is still below Chile and Argentina, as it has always been. The poor receive free money but no opportunities or perspectives, and private companies receive sub par treatment, as usual in proto-Stalinist socialist states. The only viable careers are in public branches of government, ballooning the size of the state to levels never before seen. Corruption scandals abound, and all point to our less-than-enlightened leader, Mr. Da Silva, who seems to be never at home, traveling on his newly acquired airplane on his grand international Brazilian World Marketing Tour.
Some say 85% approval rates (official numbers, of course). Funny, his candidate, former terrorist Dilma Housseff, seems to be stuck below 20% for the next election. Mr. Amorim collects defeats and is now laughingstock thanks to the Honduran fiasco. The only defense of Mr. Da Silva supporters is to attack his detractors with words of effect such as “neocons”, “elite”, "neoliberals" or “reactionaries” and to point that the previous government was just as corrupt.
Trust me, most of us will be very happy to see 2010 arrive and Mr Da Silva and his troupe go.
LULA & AMORIM changed Brazil for the better.
David, what you see written here by these lunatics supporters of the MOST CORRUPT POLITICIAN IN OUR 500 YEARS HISTORY- former President Fernando Henrique CIAardoso- is nothing, compared to what they say in private. I wish i had recorded all the rubbish that i have heard in some of the dinner parties i was invited to. They have nothing but HATE for President OBAMA, LULA, CHAVEZ, KIRCHNER...they're a tropical version of the KKK but with a lot of ill-gotten money. They're unashamedly racists, homophobes and anti-semites - even though their favourite media outlet here is VEJA; a widely circulated rightwing mag owned by a Jewish Italo-American extremist with close ties to the Likud party in Israel and the Neocons in the US. They come here to accuse President Lula and Foreign Minister Celso AMORIM of being anti-semite just because of our pragmatist FOREIGN POLICY...SHAME ON THEM. Brazil is a developing economy and we need to do business with everybody...so does the US and the EU. Ahmadinejad is coming to Brazil...but the extremist Israeli foreign minister Avigdor Liberman came first and was well received...BRAZIL/MERCOSUL has a FREE TRADE AGREEMENT with Israel...President LULA'S widely respected spokesperson Andre SINGER is Jewish and so are thousands of members of the president's Worker's party PT. I would NEVER vote for an anti-semite/racist/homophobe...but this is EXACTLY the kind of politicians they vote for. Just to remind, last election here, the president's main rival was a protegé of former president CARDOSO named ALCKMIN from the SEPARATIST state of SAO PAULO...the guy's and still is a real nutcase... He's a extremist member of the Catholic FASCIST OPUS DEI order founded by the notorious Spanish anti-semite JOSEMARIA ESCRIVA DE BALAGUER. The present Governor of the above mentioned state (José SERRA), is another nutcase too. A CARDOSO'S protegé as well and an aspiring candidate in the next year's presidential election, this former Trotskyite turncoat is a real trickster who allows no dissent and governs his CORRUPTION RIDDEN home state with an iron grip.
The state of SAO PAULO is the most politically REACTIONARY place in Brazil...you don't have to travel down here to feel it. Their Bourgeoisie is a JOKE...they think they're some kind of Arians accidentally transplanted to South America...these people are the RUBBISH OF THE RUBBISH...just like their Cuban Brethren in Miami.
Just as I mentioned, in the total lack of arguments to defend the corrupt PT/PMDB government of Mr. Da Silva, its supporters resort to attack the previous government with the usual "reactionary", "elite" and "Bourgeoisie" arguments, as if Mr. Da Silva has not become just that surrounding himself with the likes of Fernando Collor, Renan Calheiros and former president Sarney, now increased with “homophobic”(!) and “anti-semitic”. Well, enough with the name calling, I say.
Mr. Da Silva supporters need to learn a new harsh reality: Lula critics are not Cardoso supporters. In fact, our population is quite tired of both.
Was Cardoso corrupt? Hell yeah. Is Lula equally corrupt? No doubt about it. Why does it have to be one or the other? In all truth and honesty, we want neither.
In the words of Mangabeira Unger, Harvard professor and Minister of Strategic Affairs of Mr. Da Silva own government, the Lula da Silva government is "the most corrupt in or nations history". Yes, this came from the mouth of a Harvard professor that was LATER invited to be a Minister of that same government.
There is no defense to the abundant corruption of Lula´s government, nor to the sad display of servitude towards old school PMDB politicians such as former president Sarney, nor to the total lack of reforms or progress in important issues such as health care, social security and education.
What Brasil needs right now is to find new candidates, to break free from the hellish political heritage of Cardoso, Lula and specially from the ghoulish PMDB party, and to break free from the “one hand washes the other” mentality that drives our congress.
É realmente uma pena ver tantos brasileiros falando tanta besteira sobre a materia acima.
De certa forma entendo essas criticas idiotas ditas aqui, pois sei que os brasileiros sofreram e ainda tem muita gente sofrendo com fome e outras mazelas. Posso perceber que esse sofrimento está entranhado nestas pessoas de uma maneira que as cega impossibilitando a visão de qualquer mudança do nosso Brasil e criticando qualquer coisa que seja dita de uma maneira boa sobre o Brasil. Na verdade, acho que durante toda a minha vida (até o momento 38 anos), nunca vi uma evolução tão grande do meu país. Uma evolução de certa maneira rápida, mas infelizmente não rápida o bastante para mudar a idéia destas bestas brasileiras que acham que um país com 200 milhoes de habitantes e uma extensão territorial gigante se transforma da noite para o dia no melhor país para o seu povo. Bestas celestes, o Brasil está mudando, está crescendo e evoluindo como nenhum outro país do planeta terra, o nosso presidente Lula, tem a simpatia de praticamente todos os outros países, estamos caminhando para a liderança da américa dos sul e quiçá, américa latina em breve, nossa moeda tem poder e é valorizada,pessoas e famílias inteiras que habitam em lugares que não são conhecidos por nenhum brasileiro nem mesmo pelas bestas celestes que aqui criticam, estão recebendo um dinheirinho do bolsa família, e conseguem se alimentar e alimentar seus filhos, todos nós sabemos que o valor desta ajuda é pequena, mas isso para quem mora em uma cidade não é nada e se gasta na padaria comprando cerveja, mas para essas famílais são verdadeiras fortunas que tiram a fome (coisa que nenhum de nós que escreve aqui deva ter sentido algum dia - eu nunca senti esta fome), além de tantas outras coisas que ficaram melhores, iremos promover a copa e as olimpíadas.
Mas as bestas celestes brasileiras acham que isso não é nada, e acho que só param de reclamar quando tiverem muito dinheiro no bolso, algum super carro na garagem, uma casa de praia e outra de campo e comer todos os dias a Giseli Bundchem!
E o povo? O povo? ahhh, esse povinho pobre tem mais é que limpar o meu quintal.
Que a força esteja com vocês!
hahahah! Confesso que uma coisa vcs tem de bom! Vocês me divertem!
Ah! Não escrevi em inglês, por que meu inglês é macarrônico. E como já dei munição demais para vocês reclamarem, achei melhor diminuir as reclamações!
Viva o Brasil! Vai Besta, pode falar também...aproveita que ninguém está vendo!
LULA & AMORIM changed Brazil for the better.
I can't believe how MALICIOUS the Brazilian Extreme Right (supporters of the former president Fernando Henrique CLEPToso) can be. He (Mangabeira Unger) later reneged on his silly/unfair statement ...and joined the LULA'S GOVERNMENT as a cabinet minister. DemoTucanalha IMBECILE!...Why don't you tell the truth? seeeeee!!! LYING AGAIN.
PS. Just say: I'm a racist, I'm a homophobe and an anti-semite SEPARATIST from SAO PAULO...if you don't...we already know you're, by reading your NONSENSE.
Corruption defenders, call me names
Again, in the total lack of arguments we resort to name calling, this time peppered with "imbecile", or the one above who resorted to "beast" and "idiot". That´s the way of Mr. Da Silva supporters: intimidation and personal offense. Anybody who dares criticize the government must be from the extreme right, be a Cardoso supporter, a racist, a homophobe and a anti-semite. That´s the way of the Brazilian left.
Sorry to say, I´m not from São Paulo, and I´m not a separatist. I don´t think that the “Bolsa Familia”, Lula´s free money program that is a sequence to Cardosos “Bolsa Escola”, is a solution to anything. I don´t think that a thoroughly corrupt government like Mr. Da Silva, who´s only merit is to carry on his predecessors economic plan, will leave a worthwhile legacy.
Corruption is at the root of all our problems and there is no possible defense to it. Never in our history the government was involved with so many scandals, all pointing to Lula and his cohort, and never was impunity so blatant.
People need to learn that there is no possible future with corruption, we can see that in our hospitals, our schools, our slums, everywhere you look in Brasil. People talk about improvement, seriously, apart from the official propaganda and the IMF stunt, what improvement are we talking about? Ok, don´t take my word for this, come to Brasil and enroll your children in a public school, take them to a public hospital, let them open a company paying 27% taxes and eventually retire under our social security.
Ok, if it will make you feel better, call me names, tell me I´m a right wing extremist, a Cardoso fan, a anti-semite, a homophobe, an idiot and an imbecile. I don´t care. I voted for Lula in 2002 so I must really be at least some of those things.
Latin America is one place that has benefited from the war on terror. During the Dick Cheney (sorry George W Bush) presidency the US concentrated all of its' resources on the Middle East and South Asia and left its' neighbours to the South to their own devices.
This has meant that the region has had a period of unprecedented political stability. OK Venezuela and Colombia have snarled at each other but apart from that there have been no military coups, no CIA meddling, no IMF interference in economic matters.
Peace and stability equal prosperity and nowhere has this been more obvious than in Brazil. Obama doesn't seem to be inclined to interfere so hopefully after another four or eight years, by which time the American adventure in South Asia will probably be over, Latin America will be strong enough to resist any future meddling from the North.
The exception to this is the recent coup in Honduras but we can hope that the rule of law is reasserted peacefully given time.
I liked your mention of the complaint from the British embassy. If a British politician or civil servant 'miss speaks' ie has too much to drink and says the wrong thing, the official record will usually record what he should have said not what he did say.
The difference between Brazilians and Brits
I'm Brazilian and it makes me really sad/ashamed to see so many Brazilians writing so many bad things about our country. I have lived in England for 3 years and what I found out is that ALL countries have their own problems, in different subjects and different levels. The difference between us and them is that we EXPORT our problems.We want to make sure the whole world gets to know what our weaknesses are and forget all the good things (yes, we have good things, such as a warm and friendly people, natural reources, amazing weather and food, and, most importantly, after this big recession that has had a big impact over the so called "developed" countries, here we hardly felt it.
My boyfriend is an English national and when he is asked by non-British people how England is doing with the recession his answer is: "oh, everything is fine!" Which is a big lie! But he says he doesnt want to let people know his countries problems.. and that's his culture, Brits love and protect their country. I was just wondering when we Brazilians will start doing it as well.
The government is not the country
Well MarinaBrazil, I think you have country confused with government. No one said anything bad about Brasil here. All critics have been directed to our current government, which is a VERY different thing. We all love our country, and we all wish the best to Brasil, that's why most of us want a change in Brazilian politics and specially in the ethics of our politics and politicians.
This is a discussion forum, and that's what we do here. Mr. Rothkopf has an idea about our leaders that some of us disagree, so we come here and write about it. People from all over the world write in similar venues about what they disagree about their governments, like corruption, nepotism, warmongering etc. If you think this is a Brazilian habit, you should really expand your horizons.
As for hardly feeling the recession, I respectfully think that from England you're not really equipped to have an opinion about that. Unemployment rates here are soaring, despite the changes in the methodology of calculating unemployment implemented by the current government, that considers people like our street vendors (our "camelôs") employed. There is no perspective for our young, aside from public careers (our “concursos publicos”), which have become the holy grail for most of our population. We pay taxes like Sweden and receive services like Uganda. Beyond that, during some years of Lula's government (2005, 2006 for instance), Brasil was the coutry with the least economic growth in all Latin America, and if you include Central America, for these two consecutive years Brasil managed to grow less than everybody but Haiti, a country ravaged by civil war.
The crisis does not seem to have arrived here because it never left, and that is why Brasil is a leading exporter of people that seek better lives (legally and illegally) in countries like England, the US, Canada and Australia.
Is it all the current governments fault? Of course not, but it has had two consecutive terms, eight years, and nothing relevant has been done. Health care and education are the same, safety is big cities is worse that ever, slums now exist in almost all our cities and are growing by the day. Some people consider two terms a blink of an eye, not enough time to do it all, the same argument Cardoso's supporters used in 2002 to no avail. Many of us think that eight years of honesty and better political ethics can change a country.
We should be ashamed of many things, like the way we vote and the way we have accepted corrupt leaders without complaint, for instance, but never of discussing these problems and wishing for a better future.
David Rothkopf is the CEO and Editor-at-Large of Foreign Policy. His new book, "Power, Inc.: The Epic Rivalry Between Big Business and Government and the Reckoning that Lies Ahead" is due out from Farrar, Straus & Giroux on March 1.
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