The New York Times is getting beat up regularly these days. So, let's take a minute and comment on the continuing high quality of its reporting in Pakistan. There could be few more important stories. There could be few places where it is tougher to report. And yet, week after week, they produce insightful pieces that offer valuable insights into this nation that is ally, warzone, and threat all blended together.

Today's example is the story "70 Murders Yet Close to Going Free in Pakistan" by Sabrina Tavernise and Waqar Gillani. It uses the story of how one of Pakistan's most dangerous extremist leaders is likely to escape multiple murder charges scot-free to illustrate the deep flaws within the Pakistani justice system and the perverse partnership between Pakistani authorities and some very dangerous characters and organizations. (Jane Perlez's story from earlier last month, on how hard a time the United States was having getting its aid dollars distributed in conjunction with our very unappreciative seeming Pakistani "allies," is another such example. And there are plenty of others.)

These stories drive home the message that Pakistani society is hugely complex and deeply conflicted, that this is a largely dysfunctional country in which a modicum of political unrest is the best one can hope for during the foreseeable future. They remind us why it has been conventional wisdom for several years now that this is the most dangerous country in the world. 

They also underscore the absolute fallacy that every nation is "entitled" to its own nuclear program. (And they underscore why we will someday look to the Bush administration's complete caving on sanctioning Pakistan for developing its nuclear program in order to win a strategic advantage in the war against al Qaeda and the Taliban, a mirage at best, as perhaps the biggest of all its big foreign policy errors.) No society allows everyone access to firearms ... even the gun promiscuous USA. We deny weapons to minors, criminals, and the mentally unstable. We limit their ownership to people who have "proven" they can manage them. And look how that's working for us. Not so well. Is it really reasonable that there should be a lower standard for "permitting" the development of nuclear programs? 

The threat of Pakistan is primarily a regional one, unless a portion of its nuclear arsenal falls into the wrong hands. That would create a potential catastrophe to be sure. It's a high-risk scenario with an outcome that should have the United States on guard. But is Pakistan really the most dangerous country in the world?

It comes to mind as one of the other countries that I think is among the world's most dangerous, Russia, has been rattling its rusty sabers more frequently recently. There was the story the other day about its submarines off the U.S. coast, the not so comforting rebuttal today by one of its top generals, its recent naval exercises with the Iranians, its generally non-constructive attitude toward dealing with the Iranian nuclear problem, its belligerent rumblings throughout its near abroad ... the list goes on. And this is a country that has the ability, as the submarine (and earlier strategic bomber readiness) stories suggest, to project force anywhere in the world. It is also a country that has the political clout and through its natural resources the economic clout to become something between a difficult rival for the U.S. and a permanent spanner in the works of the international system. (For a very good take on Russia, see today's op-ed by one of our best experts on the country, Steve Sestanovich, in the Washington Post.)

Despite a new State Department intel estimate saying that the Russian military is less capable of projecting force than it was and is moving toward a "smaller more technical force", it still has a vastly more potent nuclear capability than all but one countries and a vastly more potent military than all but a tiny handful. Such assessments need to therefore be taken in context and always capabilities need to be multiplied by the will to use them in risk calculations.

Russia also has, as Joe Biden impoliticly noted, some problems that could be complicating factors. In short, the bear has the wolf at its door-demographically and economically. Biden interpreted these as factors that might weaken Russia. But they are also the kind of factors that often inspire leaders to dangerous postures and strategies. What is weakening Russia is simultaneously making the country more dangerous.

I know this is not a popular view. But it seems very likely to me that on more fronts and in bigger ways, Russia could be a bigger problem for the U.S. and for the world at large over the next decade or two than Pakistan.

Which begs the question: Which is the most dangerous country in the world? I'll try to answer that tomorrow.

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WADOSY

7:33 PM ET

August 6, 2009

russia's been a complete slimebag country...

...ever since putin took back russia's gas, oil and pipelines from the israeli russians allied with AEI/PNAC.

those guys, khodorkovsky, nevzlin and the rest, were scheduled, as the PNAC 9/11 operation got cranked up, to guarantee oil supplies to israeli america as israeli america tore up the middle east oil patch and rearranged it to israeli spec.

but putin threw a monkeywrench in the PNAC operation by chasing the yukos boys out russia--- most of them winding up in israel.

some of the boys were getting the chop even before 9/11... gusinsky, for instance, so the handwriting was on the wall and that handwriting may have contributed to the urgency of getting the PNAC operation underway.

so, when putin started chiseling the handwriting into stone, khordorkovsky, the head yukos guy, attempted to sell yukos to the PNAC/AEI's exxon buddies... but putin put a stop to that, too.

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so now you guys have to revive the cold war in an attempt to isolate russia from its energy customers, in hopes of causing enough economic trouble in russia that you can do "regime change" and restore the israeli russians to their rightful control of russian energy.

too bad all the commotion you're causing with iran is only contributing to rising oil prices, which benefits russia.

and it's way way way too bad that the underlying geologic facts of the situation make it likely that russia's gonna hang together longer than israeli america... seeing as how russia has enough oil and gas to support an economic recovery, and israeli america doesnt.

 

WADOSY

8:42 PM ET

August 6, 2009

if russia has to be isolated from its energy customers...

...then china is the flip side of the coin: china must be denied access to energy, which is where pakistan comes in.

maybe you've forgotten "operation enduring turmoil"

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anyhow, since china is friendly with pakistan and shares a border with pakistan, and has plans for pipelines, refineries and LNG liquefaction facilities at gwadar, pakistan, not to mention the possibilities of china taking india's place in the iran/pakistan/india pipeline, it behooves the neocons to keep pakistan in a state of enduring turmoil to prevent construction of those facilities.

 

WADOSY

8:15 PM ET

August 6, 2009

i admit this whole operation might be a deliberate distraction..

...from the main event...

the main event being: the looting of america, as america is whiplashed between spiking oil prices, popping bubbles, mild recoveries, more oil price spikes, more bubbles, more crashes, more recoveries...

a diminishing sine wave of crashes and recoveries, the big players profiting on both the up sides and the downsides, until every last nickel is sucked out and america flatlines.

 

BLUE13326

11:12 PM ET

August 6, 2009

We seem to have given up on

We seem to have given up on the idea of energy independence, realistic alternatives, and trying to do anything about the high price of oil, so Russia, with its vast oil reserves, is sure to cause us headaches for decades to come, regardless of what Biden (who was notoriously wrong about the Soviet Union back in the day) thinks.

 

WADOSY

10:33 AM ET

August 7, 2009

yup... russia = "...headaches for decades..."

it's becoming more and more obvious that, in order to achieve tikkun olam, we will have to do a nuke first strike on russia.

nuking russia would be ever so much more fun than some pedestrian tactic like making friends with them and buying their oil.

 

RANGA122KA

6:12 PM ET

August 7, 2009

mired in the past

The most dangerous forces in the world are unreconstructed cold warriors who resemble the blunderers who persisted in viewing the world through a WWII lens and gave us Vietnam. The danger Pakistan poses is far greater than that posed by Russia or China precisely because the threat lies in the potential dissolution of the state. Forty years of nuclear-armed inter-state rivalry did not produce an attack on the US homeland. A renewed interstate rivalry between the US and Russia might hinder American primacy but it would not threaten American lives. The collapse of the Pakistani state and/or its takeover of Pakistan by jihadi forces poses a far more immediate threat to the world of the sort IR theory does not comprehend.

 

HERESIARCH

6:24 PM ET

August 7, 2009

You may want to look at

You may want to look at Russia's demographic trends and extrapolate it out twenty years.

With a declining population it's entirely likely that Russia will end up losing firm control over a good chunk of it's territory due to warlordism such as that found in places like the Caucus republics and Transdniestria.

Or in the case of the areas bordering China lose defacto control of them due to immigration from across the border.

 

DAVEQUINN

6:33 PM ET

August 7, 2009

Sestanovich and those of his

Sestanovich and those of his ilk who are stuck fighting the last war (the cold war) do so at the peril of the United States. From a realist perspective, China is clearly the biggest threat to the existing world order. China's economy is poised to quickly overtake the United States', and its leadership has a will to power on the international stage which is increasingly backed up by the capabilities to do so. From an idealist or normative perspective, compared to China, Russia is a paragon of human rights and democracy. Articles like this one distract from reality. A forward-looking, reality-based analysis of Russian-American relations would instead emphasize the merits of a natural coalition of Russia and the United States (as well as India and Japan) which could be used to mitigate the looming Chinese disaster. If it were written 2000 years ago, "analysis" such as this would have suggested that the ancient Romans should continue to isolate and antagonize the Gauls rather than face the coming tide of Goths and Vandals. Instead of isolating and limiting the power of the increasingly confident and capable imperialist Chinese, the U.S. buries its head in the sand, choosing instead to ponder the (far more comforting) victories of the last war. A generation ago cold war politics prevented an alliance between the world's two largest democracies-- India and the United States. Today a new paradigm of Indian-American relations is promoting long-term strength and stability. Eschewing a similar evolution in the relationship with Russia offers meager rewards but surrenders a cornucopia of containment options which could counter the Chinese threat. Perhaps if Sestanovich's career was not dominated by Soviet era foreign relations, he would also see the writing on the wall.

David Quinn

 

David Rothkopf is the CEO and Editor-at-Large of Foreign Policy. His new book, "Power, Inc.: The Epic Rivalry Between Big Business and Government and the Reckoning that Lies Ahead" is due out from Farrar, Straus & Giroux on March 1.

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