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President Obama's speech today, welcome as it was in tenor and intent, sought to test whether American identity politics could effectively translate into a new form of U.S. identity diplomacy. While there has always been some element of playing to cultural and historical affinities in international relations, it is telling and rather worrisome that a speech offered as a centerpiece of the new president's Middle East policy spoke to a type of relationship that has seldom if ever been similarly invoked in U.S. diplomatic history-that between our country and a religion. 

Seventy-eight times in his 55-minute speech did President Obama use the words Islam or Muslim, their variants or make mention of Islamic texts, language or institutions. The central thesis of the speech was that the United States needs to redefine its relationship with the Muslim world. And while it is hard to be against strengthening our relations with any group, this approach does contain a trap. It posits the existence of something that does not really exist. With over a billion members, "the Muslim world" encompasses a group so geographically, culturally, ideologically, and ethnically diverse as to be almost a meaningless term. 

Further, as some critics have rightly pointed out, despite the occasional acknowledgement that Muslims may exist in Asia, Africa or the United States, the speech was primarily addressed to the Muslims of the greater Middle East. Not only does this unintentionally marginalize Muslims who are not Arab or Persian, upon further examination the focus on that region reminds us that our problems are not with Muslims per se but with often deeply divided subsets of that group with other sect-related, national, tribal or other identities. This in turn underscores why repairing relations with Islam is not a highly meaningful goal from a practical standpoint (because Islam is hardly monolithic and our relationship with it is hardly central to solving the problems we face).  

While the purpose of the speech seemed to be to try to engender better will toward the United States and our new administration...and while it may have succeeded in this respect...from a diplomatic perspective one can only get so far by appealing to an entity that doesn't really exist. Ultimately the representatives of the U.S. government have to sit down with representatives of local governments and most of the governments in the region are not known for their responsiveness to the needs or moods of their people. Even among those that are democratic such as Iraq, Pakistan and Iran, divisions among Islamic sects or between fundamentalist and moderate factions are likely to trump generalized views that this U.S. administration is less offensive to Muslims than the last one. 

In the United States, identity politics work because churches or synagogues mobilize voters. In the Islamic world the effect is likely to be much less easily translated into political movement. This is not to say that today's speech does damage to the United States. That could only happen if the administration were to expect too much of it in the way of meaningful consequences.

In the end, I guess I am of the school that believes in the strictest and most far reaching interpretation of the separation between church and state. There's no place for the cozy relationship that has emerged between the two in U.S. politics or in the politics of the Middle East. And there is no place for it in U.S. diplomacy. In the first instance, it is a matter of principle that should divide the two. In the second, it is a matter of practicality and a sense of history. To my mind, America should have no relationship with Islam to repair...or with any other religion. Our government should be blind to such issues and treat all countries with tolerance and respect. Which is just one more reason why today's speech, for all the merits clearly underlying its conception and evident in its execution, made me uneasy.

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BLUE13326

3:26 AM ET

June 5, 2009

You are on fire. Your last

You are on fire. Your last few posts have been classics.

Someone over there give Rothkopf a raise.

 

MONEYINABOX

2:02 PM ET

June 5, 2009

Agreed. You + words = good.

Agreed. You + words = good. Please write another book soon, the subject is not particularly important.

 

BRETT

7:25 AM ET

June 5, 2009

The feelings are the same

The feelings are the same here - this is a good post. Keep it up.

With over a billion members, "the Muslim world" encompasses a group so geographically, culturally, ideologically, and ethnically diverse as to be almost a meaningless term.

This is definitely true, and whenever you take a college class that involves Islam and politics, they always, always, always point out that "Islam" is not some homogenous group - there are countless fissures and groups, ranging from the Shia-Sunni split down to the differences in Central Asia from region to region in terms of worship, of which the noisy ones are only a small part. Then add in historical differences and nationality, and the whole thing is a giant stewpot. Playing the "civilizations" game helps nobody except the groups who think in terms of the "Umma" vs "The Others".

the speech was primarily addressed to the Muslims of the greater Middle East.

I simply take this as part of a greater sign that the US has become too deeply tied to the Middle East. We really need a re-calibration - our greatest ties, by immigration, history, and trade, are to Latin America, Europe, and East Asia. What's interesting is when people pointed this out early in the 1990s, like Bob Gates in his memoirs when talking about the greater effect of Gulf War I.

Hell, most of the muslim population lives outside of the Middle East. The country with the biggest muslim population is democratic Indonesia (who really deserves more attention from the US because of this).

divisions among Islamic sects or between fundamentalist and moderate factions are likely to trump generalized views that this U.S. administration is less offensive to Muslims than the last one.

The so-called "moderate-fundamentalist" divide is only one of the divisions. Just look at Lebanon, which is at least ostensibly a democracy.

In the end, I guess I am of the school that believes in the strictest and most far reaching interpretation of the separation between church and state.

Me too, and I think we really should be emphasizing this. The only way there will ever be true tolerance for all faiths in these societies is if there arises a true separation of church and state (or more properly, "faith" and state, since there usually aren't unified Islamic authorities on a country-by-country basis), in spirit if not necessarily in form (the UK is a highly secular country, for example, even though there still is a national church).

Secularism doesn't really get its due anymore. At least the Turks still seem to have the idea of it, although it's an open question whether secularism as a powerful idea will survive the kind of religious revival that seems to be sweeping much of the Developing World (it's not just Islam, either - Christianity has been experiencing a huge expansion in places like Africa, particularly evangelical Christianity).

 

MDREW

7:33 AM ET

June 5, 2009

Shocker

"Which is just one more reason why today's speech, for all the merits clearly underlying its conception and evident in its execution, made me uneasy."

Hmm, what could the other reasons be?

 

SOLITAIRE

12:50 PM ET

June 5, 2009

Nonetheless...

While there may not be a homogenous "Muslim world" per se, addressing Muslims on a broad, general level defangs terrorist movements by denying them the notion of American hostility towards Islam as a tool of recruitment. People, including Muslims, and certainly many extremists, do have the notion that a "Muslim world" exists. If I recall correctly, the 7/7 bombings in Britain were carried out by Pakistani Muslims born in Britain in protest of the war in Iraq. Cultural differences between Iraq and Pakistan notwithstanding, the notion of a Muslim world under attack from the West was the uniting and driving thread.

Thus, appeals to the Muslim world do have an impact - if Obama can unwork the notion that the "West" and "Islam" are at war (neither of which is a homogenous bloc), he can rob that meme of its inspirational force.

 

ZATHRAS

3:26 PM ET

June 5, 2009

Channellng Reverend Lovejoy

I was reading President Obama's Cairo speech and reminded of Reverend Lovejoy's call for understanding and tolerance among "Christians, Jews, Muslims and...miscellaneous."

Apu: Hindus. There are over 700 million of us.

Lovejoy: Well that's just super.

It isn't just non-Arab Muslims who get marginalized (or worse, treated as if the things that concern them must be the same things that concern Arab Muslims) by an approach to "the Muslim world" that is really just an approach to Arabs. There are good reasons for the approach to Arabs -- I'm not faulting Obama for making the attempt or for most of the specific points he made -- but the fact of the matter is that the most dangerous situations involving Muslims today are on the subcontinent, not the Middle East. The most likely Muslim partners on vital economic and geopolitical issues are in Southeast Asia, not the Middle East. Even the Muslims now most cruelly oppressed are somewhere else -- in Darfur, which Obama barely mentioned yesterday -- than the Middle East.

For all the value in a new American approach to the Arab Middle East, this is a region productive of an endless list of problems that from our point of view, and in the long run, can only be managed, not solved. Part of managing them is containing them, and part of doing that is not overselling our new approach to the region as a new approach to all Muslims.

 

UNRESTSOUL2001

4:41 PM ET

June 5, 2009

I liked ideas

I liked your ideas and thinking about Obama's administration along with keen eyes on what is happening around.

I would request you to publish your book as early as possible as i cant wait for it any more.


purchase internet domain name

 

KEVIN HILKE

4:38 AM ET

June 6, 2009

reduction and relevance

I've followed your work at FP since you began in January and frequently appreciate the rigor of your thought. This piece lacked that rigor in a few respects, which I elaborate on in a full response, here: http://plasmapool.org/2009/06/05/islamobama-reduction-and-relevance-in-political-rhetoric/ . Thanks.

 

SIMPLESIMON

11:31 AM ET

June 6, 2009

Obama's speech in Germany

In reference to the denial by Iranian president Ahmadinejad that holocaust ever happened, President Obama said in Germany that ’he does NOT have patience with people who would deny history’. Here is some history that President should know and NOT deny either.

The political arm of Islam has been waging terroristic holy war on the rest of the world for centuries. It has waged this war against civilizations that have nothing to do with the West, let alone America. This is why the case of Muslim aggression against India proves so much.

Medieval India, before the Muslim invasions, was a richly imaginative culture, one of the half-dozen most advanced civilizations of all time. Muslim invaders began entering India in the early 8th century, on the orders of Hajjaj, the governor of what is now Iraq. In the aftermath of the Muslim invasions of India from 8th to 11th centuries, in the ancient cities of Varanasi, Mathura, Ujjain, Maheshwar, Jwalamukhi, and Dwarka, not one temple survived whole and intact. This is the equivalent of an army marching into Paris and Rome, Florence and Oxford, and razing their architectural treasures to the ground.

In his book The Story of Civilization, famous historian Will Durant lamented the results of what he termed "probably the bloodiest story in history." He called it "a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within. Muslim invaders "broke and burned everything beautiful they came across in Hindustan," displaying the resentment of the less developed warriors who felt intimidated in the encounter with "a more refined culture." The Muslim Sultans built mosques at the sites of torn down temples, and many Hindus were sold into slavery. As far as they were concerned, Hindus were kafirs, heathens, par excellence. They, and to a lesser extent the peaceful Buddhists, were, unlike Christians and Jews, not "of the book" but at the receiving end of Muhammad’s injunction against pagans: "Kill those who join other gods wherever you may find them."

The massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history. In sheer numbers, they are bigger than the Jewish Holocaust, the Soviet Terror, the Japanese massacres of the Chinese during WWII, Mao’s devastations of the Chinese peasantry, the massacres of the Armenians by the Turks, or any of the other famous crimes against humanity of the 20th Century. But sadly, they are almost unknown outside India. The perpetrators of these massacres were not military thugs disobeying the ethical teachings of their religion, as the European crusaders in the Holy Land were, but were actually doing precisely what their religion taught. As has been well-documented, jihad has been preached from the official centers of Islam, not just the lunatic fringe.

 

PERCNON

4:38 PM ET

June 6, 2009

How many 'out' atheists are

How many 'out' atheists are there in public office in the US? Last time I checked there weren't any whatsoever in Congress.

The notion of any separation of church and state in a country as devoutly religious and intolerant to non-belief as the US is absurd, I'm afraid.

Obama's rhetoric is just as religion-infused as Bush's was. I can't remember a speech by a US President that didn't end with 'God Bless America', or words to that effect, can you?

Like it or not (and I tend not to like it) religion is a way of life, not a lifestyle choice that can be packed away into the background, separated from public life. This is a liberal fantasy peculiar to the US. It certainly has little purchase in the Middle East and falls apart under inspection in the US case too.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm as un-believingly secular as they come but I'm afraid the 'secular state' is a fantasy. There has never been such a thing, so why are we surprised that this is how politics is framed above and beyond the state level?

Framing the whole east-west 'clash' in religious terms also facilitates the illusion that these are simply two alienated sides of one united humanistic coin that must be mediated and reconciled. This trope of 'misunderstanding' deliberately ignores the sorts of issues that speeches can't so easily gloss over like massive socio-economic inequality and decades of imperial-style interference at every level of political life.

 

David Rothkopf is the CEO and Editor-at-Large of Foreign Policy. His new book, "Power, Inc.: The Epic Rivalry Between Big Business and Government and the Reckoning that Lies Ahead" is due out from Farrar, Straus & Giroux on March 1.

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